[BioC] MAS 5.0

Laurent Gautier laurent@cbs.dtu.dk
Thu, 23 Jan 2003 06:48:22 +0100


On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:58:00PM -0600, Wilkinson, Mark wrote:
> 
> This issue in general has kept me somewhat reluctant to use the affy
> package.
> 
> To the affy package authors:  is the idea for affy to reproduce the
> functionality of MAS 5.0 (at least for some parts)?  In other words, should
> I be able to do probe level summaries exactly like MAS5, or is affy's
> version just a close approximation?

As stated, the implementation was done reading the Affymetrix "white paper"
(available on the website of the company). 
The algorithms are doing what is claimed to be done 
(or at least what we understood to be done -- the source is open,
we hope to correct errors as fast as they are reported ...).
>From what I see in the data enclosed the difference between is roughly
1-2% between both implementations. I also see that the number from the
MAS output are rounded, which would make one think that the differences
have to do with truncation/rounding during the different steps. Effort was
made to avoid that but the following may make you react.
In 'pmcorrect.rma', I initially set the default
parameter 'delta' to '2^-20' (as it is written in the specs, page 8).
The default for delta is currently 2e-20 (I think the fix was suggested
to obtain results similar to MAS 5.0, Rafael may want correct me on that).
Are the specs or the code of MAS 5.0 right ?

You are free to trust better MAS 5.0. 



Hopin' it helps,


Laurent


> 
> 
> 
> Mark Wilkinson
> Informatics Analyst
> St. Jude Children's Research Hospital
> Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
> 
> The opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent
> those of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Helene Boucher [mailto:bouhel01@borabora.crchul.ulaval.ca] 
> Sent:	Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:09 AM
> To:	bioconductor@stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject:	[BioC] MAS 5.0
> 
> 
> 
> I tried  expresso  to reproduce expression measures from MAS 5.0 but I get a
> slight 
> difference from Affymetrix as illustrated on a set of 3 chips for selected
> probe 
> sets. Any idea why that is?  The version of Unix we have is SunOS Release
> 5.8.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Helene
> 
> 
> 100001_at       29.6222834908728        10.2880336221679
> 80.7973366171763
> 100002_at       9.94107964466495        62.9653009129815
> 53.7356175596969
> 100003_at       2262.85860839992        1539.08193903367
> 1910.0212276237
> 100004_at       305.100816246875        188.181043441888
> 239.902666074234
> 100005_at       434.482366404616        638.860562906946
> 589.86003783735
> 100006_at       61.9587790672468        32.9005081415387
> 61.5914892307955
> 100007_at       890.772109484179        988.46987085589 1076.17589775836
> 100009_r_at     89.4108950323307        46.1650654835421
> 54.0252748779586
> 100010_at       227.251880233698        401.164278682326
> 424.746403324436
> 100011_at       1157.66237359318        702.613181714498
> 882.033123210299
> 100012_at       893.256638440421        1511.96440725101
> 2054.18415149103
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
>  
> 
> 100001_at       16      16      26.0    A       0.781017
> 
>  
> 
> 100002_at       16      16      10.2    A       0.910595
> 
>  
> 
> 100003_at       16      16      2271.8  P       0.000219
> 
>  
> 
> 100004_at       16      16      302.2   P       0.004863
> 
>  
> 
> 100005_at       16      16      439.1   P       0.006532
> 
>  
> 
> 100006_at       16      16      63.5    A       0.358690
> 
>  
> 
> 100007_at       16      16      894.7   P       0.001354
> 
>  
> 
> 100009_r_at     16      16      90.2    P       0.000805
> 
>  
> 
> 100010_at       16      16      227.4   P       0.009985
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> 100001_at       16      16      11.0    A       0.602006
> 
>  
> 
> 100002_at       16      16      58.8    A       0.438361
> 
>  
> 
> 100003_at       16      16      1545.5  P       0.000219
> 
>  
> 
> 100004_at       16      16      191.7   P       0.011447
> 
>  
> 
> 100005_at       16      16      641.4   P       0.002617
> 
>  
> 
> 100006_at       16      16      33.7    A       0.117160
> 
>  
> 
> 100007_at       16      16      992.9   P       0.001141
> 
>  
> 
> 100009_r_at     16      16      47.4    P       0.011447
> 
>  
> 
> 100010_at       16      16      402.6   P       0.001354
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> 100001_at       16      16      81.1    A       0.438361
> 
>  
> 
> 100002_at       16      16      44.4    A       0.581931
> 
>  
> 
> 100003_at       16      16      1917.2  P       0.000219
> 
>  
> 
> 100004_at       16      16      244.2   P       0.031336
> 
>  
> 
> 100005_at       16      16      591.0   P       0.001354
> 
>  
> 
> 100006_at       16      16      62.9    A       0.089405
> 
>  
> 
> 100007_at       16      16      1080.6  P       0.000673
> 
>  
> 
> 100009_r_at     16      16      54.5    P       0.011447
> 
>  
> 
> 100010_at       16      16      428.1   P       0.000959
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 
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