[BioC] base of B-value log in Limma - still not sure

Richard Friedman friedman at cancercenter.columbia.edu
Fri May 5 21:54:29 CEST 2006


Dear Darlene,

	Thank you very much!

Best wishes,
Rich

On May 5, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Darlene Goldstein wrote:

> Richard Friedman <friedman at ...> writes:
>
>>
>> Dear Morten,
>>
>> 	Thank you for your answer, but I am still not sure based upon it.
>> In Limma log2 is used for absolute intensities, and for  M.
>> M=log2(Intenisity2)-log2(Intensity1). In limma, B and M appear in
>> the same table and graphs. This is unusual if B and M have different
>> bases.
>>
>> 	Also, at least in the usage with which I am familiar, "natural: logs
>> are
>> base e not base 10" and I have seen "log" without a subscript used for
>> both base 10 and base e logs. So even if B is not base 2 I am not
>> usr eif it is base 10 or base e.
>>
>> 	Would Gordon care to comment?
>>
>> Thanks and best wishes,
>> Rich
>
> Hi, if you look at the code in eBayes.R, you will see that the B-stat 
> is
> computed with the R function 'log', and if you look at the 
> documentation
>
> ?log
>
> you will see that 'log' computes natural logarithms (where 'natural'
> means base e).
>
> Best regards, Darlene
>
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