[Rd] initialize expression in 'quasi' (PR#8486)

Prof Brian Ripley ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
Mon Jan 16 09:28:19 CET 2006


Bill,

As you see, R-bugs does not work with encoded (binary) attachments. 
Could you please send this again to R-devel with (if possible) text 
attachments?

The source code says

# 0.1 fudge here matches poisson: S has 1/6.
     initialize <- expression({ n <- rep.int(1, nobs); mustart <- y + 0.1 * (y == 0)})

although I believe S-PLUS has diverged here.

Brian

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 Bill.Venables at csiro.au wrote:

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> This is not so much a bug as an infelicity in the code that can easily
> be fixed.
>
> The initialize expression in the quasi family function is, (uniformly
> for all links and all variance functions):
>
>
>    initialize <- expression({
>        n <- rep.int(1, nobs)
>        mustart <- y + 0.1 * (y =3D=3D 0)
>    })
>
> This is inappropriate (and often fails) for variance function
> "mu(1-mu)".  Here is a short demo to show it:
> #################################################
>
> set.seed(666)
> dat <- data.frame(x =3D rep((-10):10, each =3D 5), w =3D rep(1:5, 21))
> dat <- transform(dat, y =3D rbinom(x, size =3D w, prob =3D pcauchy(1 + =
> 2*x)))
>
> modFit <- glm(y/w ~ x, quasi(link =3D cauchit, variance =3D "mu(1-mu)"),
>              dat, weights =3D w, trace =3D T)
>
> Deviance =3D 309.2785 Iterations - 1=20
> Deviance =3D 3257.501 Iterations - 2=20
> Deviance =3D 1043.455 Iterations - 3=20
> ..
> Deviance =3D 1733.824 Iterations - 24=20
> Deviance =3D 1665.487 Iterations - 25=20
> Warning message:
> algorithm did not converge in: glm.fit(x =3D X, ...
> #################################################
>
> A comprehensive fix would involve tying the initialize expression to
> both the link and the variance function, but that would involve changing
> make.link(), which is probably not a good idea for other reasons (though
> ultimately that might be the way to go).  There are at least three
> possible work-arounds:
>
> 1) use quasibinomial for this kind of model (but that's not possible
> here and an unnecessary complication if you are transferring S-PLUS
> code, which is how I found the problem) but quasibinomial could be
> extended to take this link as well, of course.
>
> 2) warn people in the help information that with quasi() they should
> always give the algorithm a bit more help and supply an appropriate
> mustart.   This works fine (even if the coefficient estimates are a bit
> ropey!):
>
> #################################################
> modFit <- glm(y/w ~ x, quasi(link =3D cauchit, variance =3D "mu(1-mu)"),
>  dat, weights =3D w, trace =3D T, mustart =3D pmax(0.001, pmin(0.999, =
> y/w)))
>
> Deviance =3D 218.9552 Iterations - 1=20
> Deviance =3D 123.2773 Iterations - 2=20
> Deviance =3D 86.13804 Iterations - 3=20
> Deviance =3D 74.23746 Iterations - 4=20
> Deviance =3D 72.03787 Iterations - 5=20
> Deviance =3D 71.89566 Iterations - 6=20
> Deviance =3D 71.89395 Iterations - 7=20
> Deviance =3D 71.89395 Iterations - 8=20
> Deviance =3D 71.89395 Iterations - 9=20
>> =20
> #################################################
>
> 3) change quasi() slightly to cover this case, at least, in a better
> way.
>
> I have included a minimally modified version of quasi that I think
> achieves this and the demo shown above.=20
>
> With the changed version the performance, in this case, is identical to
> what you get above when mustart is supplied.  The changes cannot affect
> performance with any other variance functions and with this variance
> function should only make things better, but it just _might_ make things
> work worse in extreme and unusual cases.  I have not found one, though.
>
> Bill Venables.=20
>
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