[Rd] [FORGED] src/modules/X11/devX11.c, can we remove "#if BUG" yet

peter dalgaard pd@|gd @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Wed Apr 24 11:42:01 CEST 2019

I don't recall exactly what I did 18 years ago eiher and I likely don't have the time to dig into the archives and reconstruct.

I can imagine that the issue had to do with the protocol around creating and mapping windows. Presumably the segfault comes from looking for events on a window that hasn't been created yet, or has already been destroyed, leading to a NULL reference somewhere. I have a vague recollection that the issue was window manager dependent (in 2001 probably not twm, more likely xvwm on RedHat if it was affecting me). 

A proper fix should go via proper understanding of the X11 protocol - uncommenting a line is as bad as commenting it in the 1st place.... So more like "wait for window to exist THEN process events" -- but the 1st part may be WM specific, etc. 

I recall docs being quite obtuse, and the X11 "mechanism not policy" credo doesn't help as WMs are not obliged to (say) send notifications, so you can end up stalling, waiting for events that never happen.

It is entirely possible that there is stuff in here that I didn't understand properly at the time, and still don't!

- pd

> On 24 Apr 2019, at 02:30 , Paul Murrell <paul using stat.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> Hi
> Sorry, I can't offer an explanation for the commented-out line.
> However, regarding your final question of avoiding the R-core bottleneck, you do have the option of creating a third-party graphics device package.  See, for example, the 'tikzDevice' and 'svglite' packages on CRAN.  Does that provide you with a way forward ?
> Paul
> On 20/04/2019 5:27 p.m., frederik using ofb.net wrote:
>> Dear R Devel,
>> I know that someone put this line in src/modules/X11/devX11.c:2824 for
>> a reason, because commenting it out causes R to miss an important
>> ConfigureNotify event in my window manager. The result is that plots
>> are initially drawn off the window borders, unreadable.
>>    R_ProcessX11Events((void*) NULL);
>> Unfortunately for me, this line is commented in the standard release
>> of R, it has "#if BUG ... #endif" around it.
>> I guess it is also unfortunate for anyone who uses the same window
>> manager as I do, namely i3, which I think is pretty popular among Unix
>> power users these days; not to mention other full-screen window
>> managers which probably exhibit the same bug in R.
>> Maybe everyone on the Core team uses twm as their window manager? Or
>> RStudio on Windows? Which would be sad because then we're not
>> representing an important user demographic, namely those who prefer
>> software which is modern and powerful, yet simple to understand and
>> modify; fully configurable and interoperable and so on.
>> I first reported this bug 3 years ago. In doing research for my bug
>> report, I found that the line was commented out by Peter Dalgaard in
>> 2001 with the explanation "X11 segfault fix - I hope".
>> I don't know what the way forward is. Obviously the Core Team has
>> reason to say, "look, this isn't very important, it's been broken
>> since 2001, maybe fixing it will cause the undocumented segfault bug
>> to reappear, clearly no one here uses your window manager". Do I have
>> to submit a correctness proof for the proposed change? What do I do?
>> https://bugs.r-project.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16702
>> As mentioned in my bug report, I checked using gdb that
>> ConfigureNotify is indeed being received by the call to
>> R_ProcessX11Events() when it is uncommented. I haven't experienced any
>> segfaults.
>> It's good that Peter left evidence that "R_ProcessX11Events" was being
>> called 18 years ago from X11DeviceDriver(). If he had deleted the
>> line, rather than commenting it, then discovering the reason for the
>> window rendering bug would have been much harder for me.
>> However, the downside is that now it is not just a matter of inserting
>> the line where it belongs; I also feel a bit like I have to explain
>> why it was initially removed. But although I've given it some thought,
>> I still have no idea.
>> Somewhat tangentially, I am wondering if there is some way that we
>> could make the development of R's graphics code proceed at a faster
>> rate, for example by pulling it out into a separate module, so that
>> people could offer alternative implementations via CRAN etc., rather
>> than having R Core be the bottleneck. Would this make sense? Has it
>> already been done?
>> Thank you,
>> Frederick
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