[Rd] Underscores in package names

Brian G. Peterson br|@n @end|ng |rom br@verock@com
Fri Aug 9 21:35:03 CEST 2019 

On 2019-08-09 14:27, neonira Arinoem wrote:
> I do not follow you Gabriel. Package name must not use digit numbers.
> Tarbal will use them, taken from the DESCRIPTION file, version field.
> 
> That's why I consider the weird case name you presented as irrelevant, 
> and
> not to be considered.

ggplot2 ?

Numbers are allowed in package names right now.


> Le ven. 9 août 2019 à 20:41, Gabriel Becker <gabembecker using gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 11:05 AM neonira Arinoem <neonira using gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Won't it be better to have a convention that allows lowercase, dash,
>>> underscore and dot as only valid characters for new package names and 
>>> keep
>>> the ancient format validation scheme for older package names?
>>> 
>> 
>> Validation isn't the only thing we need to do wrt package names. we 
>> also
>> need to detect them, and particularly,  in at least one case, extract 
>> them
>> from package tarball filenames (which we also need to be able to
>> detect/find).
>> 
>> If we were writing a new language and people wanted to allow snake 
>> case in
>> package names, sure, but we're talking about about changing how a 
>> small but
>> package names and package tarballs have always (or at least a very 
>> long
>> time, I didn't check) had the same form, and it seems expressive 
>> enough to
>> me? I mean periods are allowed if you feel a strong need for something
>> other than a letter.
>> 
>> Note that this proposal would make mypackage_2.3.1 a valid *package 
>> name*,
>> whose corresponding tarball name might be mypackage_2.3.1_2.3.2 after 
>> a
>> patch. Yes its a silly example, but why allow that kind of ambiguity?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For the record @Ben Bolker <bbolker using gmail.com>
>> 
>> Packages that mix case anywhere in their package name:
>> 
>> > table(grepl("((^[a-z].*[A-Z])|(^[A-Z].*[a-z]))", row.names(a1)))
>> 
>> 
>> FALSE  TRUE
>> 
>>  8818  5932
>> 
>> 
>> Packages which start with lower case and have at least one upper
>> 
>> > table(grepl("((^[a-z].*[A-Z]))", row.names(a1)))
>> 
>> 
>> FALSE  TRUE
>> 
>> 12315  2435
>> 
>> 
>> Packages which start with uppercase and have at least one lower
>> 
>> > table(grepl("((^[A-Z].*[a-z]))", row.names(a1)))
>> 
>> 
>> FALSE  TRUE
>> 
>> 11253  3497
>> 
>> Packages which take advantage of the above-mentioned legality of 
>> periods
>> 
>> > table(grepl(".", row.names(a1), fixed=TRUE))
>> 
>> 
>> FALSE  TRUE
>> 
>> 14259   491
>> 
>> Packages with pure lower-case alphabetic names
>> 
>> > table(grepl("^[a-z]+$", row.names(a1)))
>> 
>> 
>> FALSE  TRUE
>> 
>>  7712  7038
>> 
>> 
>> Packages with pure upper-case alphabetic names
>> 
>> > table(grepl("^[A-Z]+$", row.names(a1)))
>> 
>> 
>> FALSE  TRUE
>> 
>> 13636  1114
>> 
>> 
>> Package with at least one numeric digit in their name
>> 
>> > table(grepl("[0-9]", row.names(a1)))
>> 
>> 
>> FALSE  TRUE
>> 
>> 14208   542
>> 
>> 
>> It would be interesting to do an actual analysis of the changes in 
>> these
>> trends over time, but I Really should be working, so that will have to
>> either wait or be done by someone else.
>> Best,
>> ~G
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> This could be implemented by a single function, taking a 
>>> strictNaming_b_1
>>> parameter which defaults to true. Easy to use, and compliance results 
>>> will
>>> vary according to the parameter value, allowing strict compliance for 
>>> new
>>> package names and lazy compliance for older ones.
>>> 
>>> Doing so allows to enforce a new package name convention while also
>>> insuring continuity of compliance for already existing package names.
>>> 
>>> Fabien GELINEAU alias Neonira
>>> 
>>> Le ven. 9 août 2019 à 18:40, Kevin Wright <kw.stat using gmail.com> a écrit 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> > Please, no.  I'd also like to disallow uppercase letters in package
>>> names.
>>> > For instance, the cuteness of using a capital "R" in package names is
>>> > outweighed by the annoyance of trying to remember which packages use an
>>> > upper-case letter.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:32 AM Jim Hester <james.f.hester using gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Are there technical reasons that package names cannot be snake case?
>>> > > This seems to be enforced by `.standard_regexps()$valid_package_name`
>>> > > which currently returns
>>> > >
>>> > >    "[[:alpha:]][[:alnum:].]*[[:alnum:]]"
>>> > >
>>> > > Is there any technical reason this couldn't be altered to accept `_`
>>> > > as well, e.g.
>>> > >
>>> > >   "[[:alpha:]][[:alnum:]._]*[[:alnum:]]"
>>> > >
>>> > > I realize that historically `_` has not always been valid in variable
>>> > > names, but this has now been acceptable for 15+ years (since R 1.9.0 I
>>> > > believe). Might we also allow underscores for package names?
>>> > >
>>> > > Jim
>>> > >
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