[R] repeated measures regression

[John Christie]

Hmmm, been away and got this...  I appreciate the effort but there  
wasn't anything, in principle, in MASS on this I didn't already  
know.  My question is just more about the functioning of the lm  
command and deriving these values.  I understand that its the wrong  
approach for repeated measures design and lme is more appropriate.   
But, I wanted to examine / compare.  So, my question still stands.   
How does one get something like the subject x effect interaction term  
from lm?

Also, while I'm at it, anyone familiar with Blouin & Riopelle on  
confidence intervals and repeated measures deigns?  Is there a reason  
the intervals() command should give me different values for the  
narrow inference confidence intervals than they get from SAS?

On May 17, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Bert Gunter wrote:

> You need to gain some background. MIXED EFFECTS MODELS in S and S- 
> PLUS by
> Pinheiro and Bates is a canonical reference for how to do this with R.
> Chapter 10  of Venables and Ripley's MASS(4th ed.) contains a more  
> compact
> but very informative overview that may suffice. Other useful  
> references can
> also be found on CRAN.
>
>
> Bert Gunter
> Genentech Nonclinical Statistics
>
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> Subject: [R] repeated measures regression
>
>
> How does one go about doing a repeated measure regression? The
> documentation I have on it (Lorch & Myers 1990) says to use linear /
> (subj x linear) to get your F.  However, if I put subject into glm or
> lm I can't get back a straight error term because it assumes
> (rightly) that subject is a nominal predictor of some sort.
>
> In looking at LME it seems like it just does the right thing here if
> I enter the random effect the same as when looking for ANOVA like
> results out of it.  But, part of the reason I'm asking is that I
> wanted to compare the two methods.  I suppose I could get it out of
> aov but isn't that built on lm?  I guess what I'm asking is how to
> calculate the error terms easily with lm.