[R] Trying to get around R
Loren Engrav
engrav at u.washington.edu
Tue Nov 20 16:31:17 CET 2007
Good morning and thank you
One correction please
I was not the poster
I am engrav at u.washington.edu
Poster was Epselon <jazzyazza at hotmail.com>
What you say is most certainly true. But then the newbie corrections might
have the style displayed by Mr. Bolker to both educate and further promote
participation.
Loren Engrav
Univ Wash
Seattle
> From: ecatchpole <e.catchpole at adfa.edu.au>
> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:07:23 +1100
> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
> Cc: <r-help at r-project.org>
> Subject: Re: [R] Trying to get around R
>
> Loren,
>
> There's a good reason for replying to the list, rather than just to you
> personally: to let other readers of the list see the response, so that
> they don't duplicate it. Your original posting certainly looked like
> homework questions to me. This impression was reinforced by the fact
> that the posting was anonymous: this is surely a breach of general
> netiquette, rather than an R newbie error?
>
> Students do attempt to get people on this list to do their homework for
> them. It is important, for the integrity of their degrees, that we
> minimise the occurrence of this. Regular contributors to this list (and
> I am not one) perform a huge public service. we should all be grateful
> for this.
>
> Ted Catchpole.
>
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>
> Loren Engrav wrote on 11/20/2007 04:43 PM:
>> I am a newbie to R and Bio emails and
>>
>> It is clear that newbies make "mistakes", I made several which were pointed
>> out and I am trying to fix them, and as I fix one I make another, in time
>> perhaps I will "know it all", but if it is like surgery, I will make
>> mistakes until I retire
>>
>> But the response of the "old-timers" to these mistakes seems arrogant and
>> cruel and "off putting" and does NOT encourage more participation. In fact
>> it takes "real stuff" to continue after this putdown and that putdown.
>>
>> There are 3,783 links to posting guidelines, which took 1.5 hours to find
>> and read and understand.
>>
>> Why not a link on how the mistakes of the newbies will be dealt with?
>>
>> Or a kindly response from the moderator personal to the newbie rather than
>> to the entire world?
>>
>> Or a kindly general response as from Ben Bolker to my last infraction which
>> was "You might have better luck with this on the Bioconductor mailing list
>> ..."
>>
>> Rather than to the universe...
>> "Using the wrong list: this is for R-sig-mac, and the topic occcurred
>> there recently."
>>
>> All in an effort to encourage promote useful and increasing exchange
>> participation
>>
>> Or not....
>>
>> Loren Engrav, MD
>> Univ Washington
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Julian Burgos <jmburgos at u.washington.edu>
>>> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:44:49 -0800
>>> To: Epselon <jazzyazza at hotmail.com>
>>> Cc: <r-help at r-project.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [R] Trying to get around R
>>>
>>> Hello Epselon (if that is your name),
>>>
>>
>> This sounds like homework questions.
>>
>>> From the R-help posting guide:
>>>
>> "Basic statistics and classroom homework:
>>
>>> R-help is not intended for
>>>
>> these."
>>
>> If you have a specific question on R
>>
>>> coding, do ask it (and provide
>>>
>> reproducible code). But you should not expect
>>
>>> for people on the list to
>>>
>> do your homework for you. That is a big
>>
>>> no-no.
>>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Epselon wrote:
>>>>
>>> I have three problems I am trying to
>>>
>>>> simulate, that I am having difficulty
>>>>
>>> getting around with.
>>>
>>> Problem 1.
>>>
>>> I want to determine the 85 percentile (the x value for which the sum of
>>>
>>>
>>>> probabilities becomes 0.85) of the following distributions (two binomials
>>>>
>>>> and a Poisson with rate Lmbda= np of the two binomials): X ~B(10, 0.3),
>>>>
>>>> Y~P(3) ,
>>>>
>>> Z~B(30, 0.1). I want to show that that Y is a good approximation
>>>
>>>> for Z but
>>>>
>>> not for X...(by examining these distributions for few
>>> different
>>>
>>>> percentiles)
>>>>
>>> Problem 2:
>>> For a binomial distribution X ~ B(20, 0.4), I
>>>
>>>> want to use R to calculate
>>>>
>>> P{|X - μ| < 2} and verify that it is near or
>>>
>>>> larger than 0.95. (Hint from
>>>>
>>> the text book: Since μ = 8 and 2.3 then
>>>
>>>> you
>>>> may want to read the
>>>>
>>> weights, or probabilities, of the values 6:10, into a
>>>
>>>> vector v and then use
>>>>
>>> the command sum(v) to
>>> calculate the sum.) Repeat
>>>
>>>> this for another set of parameters of your
>>>>
>>> choice.
>>>
>>> Problem 3:
>>> Draw a
>>>
>>>> sample of size 10, from a Poisson with Lambda= 5, and calculate the
>>>>
>>> mean
>>>
>>>> and
>>>> the standard deviation of this sample, Repeat this calculation with
>>>>
>>> size 20
>>>
>>>> and 30 and demonstrate
>>>>
>>> that ‾X gets closer to μ as the sample size
>>>
>>>> increases.
>>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate it if someone accompanied the
>>>
>>>> codes with a brief
>>>>
>>> explanation so I can be able to replicate it
>>>
>>>> myself.
>>>>
>>
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