[R] Help with stl

stephen sefick ssefick at gmail.com
Tue Sep 2 14:35:50 CEST 2008


#from the ?stl examples
g<-stl(nottem, "per")
g
#in g are the residuals, sesonal trend, and the remainder.  It looks
like you are going to have to #model this decompostion to get at what
you want.

Stephen

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Ryan <rhafen at purdue.edu> wrote:
>  <rkevinburton <at> charter.net> writes:
>
>>
>> I just realized after some tips and a little digging that what I was trying to
> do "manually" has already been
>> done. I was trying to fit my data using 'lm' then taking the "residual" data
> and trying to do a spectral
>> estimate (for seasonality) usiing fft and then passing the "residual" of all
> of that to arima to get the
>> irregular portion of the time series forecast equation. I found 'stl' that
> advertises that it does all of
>> this (and probably better than my efforts). The only problem that I found was
> that it takes a time-series
>> object. Time-series objects don't handle missing observations. Say I only have
> two observations for the
>> year (enough to fit a line through). I can easily fit a line through the
> observation points but if I add in
>> zeros for the missing observations least squares will un
>>  doubtedly throw my observations out and fit the "wrong" line. The other steps
> will more than likely have
>> residual data so I don't have to worry for these steps about missing data. Has
> anyon!
>>  e used 'stl' with missing observations? If so what sort of tricks did you use
> to get around the missing data
>> and time series?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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>
> Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but R's STL implementation
> uses the Fortran version of stl, which in interest of speed does not
> allow for missing observations.  If you use the stl implemented in S,
> you should be able to have missing observations.
>
> If you read the original stl paper, the algorithm is described and is
> pretty straightforward to implement or do your own variation on.
>
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Stephen Sefick
Research Scientist
Southeastern Natural Sciences Academy

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