[R] New York Times - R - article a fraud?

Rau, Roland Rau at demogr.mpg.de
Tue Feb 3 10:24:57 CET 2009


Hi,

it seems to me that this article in the NYT started many discussions.
Maybe I missed it but are there some responses to the article by Ihaka &
Gentleman?
Or maybe by John Chambers as the central person for the development of S
(hope I am not mistaken here)?

I'd be more interested in their opinions than another "outrage!"
posting.

Thanks,
Roland


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> [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] On Behalf Of eugene dalt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:49 AM
> To: R-help at stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: [R] New York Times - R - article a fraud?
> 
> I worked on some ad data before and I found NYT article very 
> biaised and not far from a fraud... Anyone knows if they got 
> money from a - company -  to play 'R'?
> 
> Check out the title:   R U Ready for R?   Seems to me this 
> title was stolen from   XLSolutions    
> www.xlsolutions-corp.com  and they never mentioned 
> XLSolutions in the article!
> 
> They mentioned commercial R....never mentioned  R-PLUS 
> (www.experience-rplus.com),  nor  RSTAT 
> (http://random-technologies-llc.com). 
> 
> I attended Trevor's class and his comment on the article is alarming:
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> As a long time user of S, Splus and now R, I loved the article on R
> until I read the paragraph on how it all started. 
> 
> I quote:
> "According to them, the notion of devising something like R sprang up
> during a hallway conversation. They both wanted technology better
> suited for their statistics students, who needed to analyze data and
> produce graphical models of the information. Most comparable software
> had been designed by computer scientists and proved hard to use."
> 
> This is grossly ungenerous to the original inventors of the 
> wonderful S
> language underlying the R system.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> 
> I think R community should report this fraudulent article to 
> the NYT ed board. It's fraud, not journalism and someone has 
> to say it! 
> 
> 1- They got money for it....fine it's business as usual 
> (unless someone knows someone and took some bribes). Yes... 
> One company seems to appear many many times in the article...
> 2- It's a 'free' article, then it's rubish as usual.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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