[R] please please unsubscribe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeff Newmiller jdnewmil at dcn.davis.CA.us
Sun Nov 30 04:32:24 CET 2014


To be fair, Rolf, they have already found difficulty and are trying to find their way out of this torrent, and impeding their way is not in anyone's interest.

John: I agree that adding the word "unsubscribe" to the footer would probably help those lost enough to be mailing the list. The existing web page does have that word on it, though.

Fabio: I was unaware of the unsubscribe header... looks interesting, though I would be concerned that it seems like it might bypass the password protection currently in place, making it susceptible to abuse. However, there seem to be quite a lot of organizations using it so it may work better than my initial impression tells me it does.


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On November 29, 2014 6:14:11 PM PST, Rolf Turner <r.turner at auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
>On 30/11/14 14:16, John Sorkin wrote:
>> I don't see a link that is labeled "unsubscribe".
>
><SNIP>
>
>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Jeff Newmiller
><jdnewmil at dcn.davis.CA.us>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In what way would that be unlike the link that is already there?
>
><SNIP>
>
>>> On November 29, 2014 4:09:29 PM PST, John Sorkin
>> <jsorkin at grecc.umaryland.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Requests like this appear from time to time. Would it make sense
>to
>>>> add a link to the bottom of the email messages generated by the
>mail
>>>> program that is labeled and goes directly to the unsubscribe page?
>
>Well, there is no "unsubscribe" page as such.  The link given, i.e.
>
>     https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
>
>takes you to the primary help page. That provides a link to a (password
>
>protected) page where you can handle all matters pertaining to your
>r-help subscription, including unsubscribing.
>
>I suppose that it might be possible to provide a link taking one 
>directly to this second page, but:
>
>(1) It would add clutter (I'm sure we don't want to delete the link to 
>the primary help page).
>
>(2) The password protection might get complicated; I don't know about 
>such matters.
>
>(3) I don't think we want to waste time and resources helping people
>who 
>are too stupid and illiterate to find their way to the unsubscribe 
>facility on the basis of what is already provided.  They shouldn't be
>R users in the first place.  One needs at least two grey cells to rub 
>together to deal with R.
>
>cheers,
>
>Rolf Turner



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