[R] [External] Re: [FORGED] Re: Regarding R licensing usage guidance

[Tierney, Luke]

Thanks Roy -- I was about to write along the same lines.

Best,

luke

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal via R-help wrote:

> Hi Rolf:
>
> As they say,  do read the posting guide:
>
>> Good manners: Remember that customs differ. Some people are very direct. Others surround everything they say with hedges and apologies. Be tolerant. Rudeness is never warranted, but sometimes `read the manual’ is the appropriate response. Don’t waste time discussing such matters on the list. Ad hominem comments are absolutely out of place.
>
>
> -Roy
>
>
>>
>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Rolf Turner <r.turner using auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 25/07/19 4:36 AM, Weiwen Ng, MPH wrote:
>>
>>> Here's one way to phrase your reply:
>>> "I'd recommend you search Google. For example, the search string
>>> "proprietary use GPL" produces one hit that's clearly relevant to you:
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>>> This method is more neutrally worded. It doesn't insult the original
>>> poster. It doesn't assume the poster had bad intent.
>>> Instead, you chose to phrase it thus:
>>> "Your internet skills are pathetic. Search Google for "proprietary use gpl"
>>> and the first hit is ...  Note that there are (at least) three obvious
>>> alternatives if there is any question in your case ...   I think your
>>> desperation to steal the hard work of the various R contributors seems
>>> quite odious."
>>> Think about the overall tone of your post. Consider also that someone who
>>> agrees with you substantive argument said that your comments were "often
>>> (almost always?) a bit rough about the edges."
>>
>> Yeah, but Jeff's rough-about-the-edges phrasing is much more colourful, and colourful is *GOOD*.  There is far too much bland "Shhhh. We *mustn't* offend anybody" content in current discourse.  Tell it like it is!  Ripley into people!  If the recipient can't take the heat, he or she should get out of the kitchen!
>>
>> See also fortunes::fortune(87).
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Rolf Turner
>>
>> P.S.  Jeff makes a huge and extremely useful contribution to R-help.  He gives generously of time and effort to solve beginners' problems.  They should appreciate the time and effort and not whinge about being offended.
>>
>> R. T.
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