[R] Nested structure data simulation

varin sacha v@r|n@@ch@ @end|ng |rom y@hoo@|r
Sun May 19 17:14:02 CEST 2019


Dear Boris,

Great !!!! But what about Mark in your R code ? Don't we have to precise in the R code that mark ranges between 1 to 6 (1 ; 1.5 ; 2 ; 2.5 ; 3 ; 3.5 ; 4 ; 4.5 ; 5 ; 5.5 ; 6) ?

By the way, to fit a linear mixed model, I use lme4 package and then the lmer function works with the variables like in this example here below :

library(lme4)
mm=lmer(Mark ~Gender + (1 | School / Class), data=Dataset) 

With your R code, how can I write the lmer function to make it work ?

Best,
S.







Le dimanche 19 mai 2019 à 15:26:39 UTC+2, Boris Steipe <boris.steipe using utoronto.ca> a écrit : 





Fair enough - there are additional assumptions needed, which I make as follows:
  - each class has the same size
  - each teacher teaches the same number of classes
  - the number of boys and girls is random within a class
  - there are 60% girls  (just for illustration that it does not have to be equal)
  

To make the dependencies explicit, I define them so, and in a way that they can't be inconsistent.

nS <- 10        # Schools
nTpS <- 5      # Teachers per School
nCpT <- 2      # Classes per teacher
nPpC <- 20      # Pupils per class
nS * nTpS * nCpT * nPpC == 2000  # Validate


mySim <- data.frame(School  = paste0("s", rep(1:nS, each = nTpS*nCpT*nPpC)),
                    Teacher = paste0("t", rep(1:(nTpS*nS), each = nCpT*nPpC)),
                    Class  = paste0("c", rep(1:(nCpT*nTpS*nS), each = nPpC)),
                    Gender  = sample(c("boy", "girl"),
                                    (nS*nTpS*nCpT*nPpC),
                                    prob = c(0.4, 0.6),
                                    replace = TRUE),
                    Mark    = numeric(nS*nTpS*nCpT*nPpC),
                    stringsAsFactors = FALSE)
                    

Then you fill mySim$Mark with values from your linear mixed model ...

mySim$Mark[i] <- simMarks(mySim[i])  # ... or something equivalent.


All good?

Cheers,
Boris



> On 2019-05-19, at 08:05, varin sacha <varinsacha using yahoo.fr> wrote:
> 
> Many thanks to all of you for your responses.
> 
> So, I will try to be clearer with a larger example. Te end of my mail is the more important to understand what I am trying to do. I am trying to simulate data to fit a linear mixed model (nested not crossed). More precisely, I would love to get at the end of the process, a table (.txt) with columns and rows. Column 1 and Rows will be the 2000 pupils and the columns the different variables : Column 2 = classes ; Column 3 = teachers, Column 4 = schools ; Column 5 = gender (boy or girl) ; Column 6 = mark in Frecnh
> 
> Pupils are nested  in classes, classes are nested in schools. The teacher are part of the process.
> 
> I want to simulate a dataset with n=2000 pupils, 100 classes, 50 teachers and 10 schools.
> - Pupils n°1 to pupils n°2000 (p1, p2, p3, p4, ..., p2000)
> - Classes n°1 to classes n°100 (c1, c2, c3, c4,..., c100)
> - Teachers n°1 to teacher n°50 ( t1, t2, t3, t4, ..., t50)
> - Schools n°1 to chool n°10 (s1, s2, s3, s4, ..., s10)
> 
> The nested structure is as followed : 
> 
> -- School 1 with teacher 1 to teacher 5 (t1, t2, t3, t4 and t5) with classes 1 to classes 10 (c1, c2, c3, c4, c5, c6, c7, c8,c9,c10), pupils n°1 to pupils n°200 (p1, p2, p3, p4,..., p200).
> 
> -- School 2 with teacher 6 to teacher 10, with classes 11 to classes 20, pupils n°201 to pupils n°400
> 
> -- and so on
> 
> The table (.txt) I would love to get at the end is the following :
> 
>        Class    Teacher    School    gender    Mark
> 1      c1        t1                s1            boy        5
> 2      c1        t1                s1            boy        5.5
> 3      c1        t1                s1            girl        4.5
> 4      c1        t1                s1            girl        6
> 5      c1        t1                s1            boy      3.5
> 6      ...        ....                ....            .....        .....              
> 
> The first 20 rows with c1, with t1, with s1, gender (randomly slected) and mark (andomly selected) from 1 to 6
> The rows 21 to 40 with c2 with t1 with s1
> The rows 41 to 60 with c3 with t2 with s1
> The rows 61 to 80 with c4 with t2 with s1
> The rows 81 to 100 with c5 with t3 with s1
> The rows 101 to 120 with c6 with t3 with s1
> The rows 121 to 140 with c7 with t4 with s1
> The rows 141 to 160 with c8 with t4 with s1
> The rows 161 to 180 with c9 with t5 with s1
> The rows 181 to 200 with c10 with t5 with s1
> 
> The rows 201 to 220 with c11 with t6 with s2
> The rows 221 to 240 with c12 with t6 with s2
> 
> And so on...
> 
> Is it possible to do that ? Or am I dreaming ?
> 
> 
> Le dimanche 19 mai 2019 à 10:45:43 UTC+2, Linus Chen <linus.l.chen using gmail.com> a écrit : 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear varin sacha,
> 
> I think it will help us help you, if you give a clearer description of
> what exactly you want.
> 
> I assume the situation is that you know what a data structure you
> want, but do not know
> how to conveniently create such structure.
> And that is where others can help you.
> So, please, describe the wanted data structure more thoroughly,
> ideally with example.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lei
> 
> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 10:04 PM varin sacha via R-help
> <r-help using r-project.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Boris,
>> 
>> Yes, top-down, no problem. Many thanks, but in your code did you not forget "teacher" ? As a reminder teacher has to be nested with classes. I mean the 50 pupils belonging to C1 must be with (teacher 1) T1, the 50 pupils belonging to C2 with T2, the 50 pupils belonging to C3 with T3 and so on.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Le samedi 18 mai 2019 à 16:52:48 UTC+2, Boris Steipe <boris.steipe using utoronto.ca> a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can you build your data top-down?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> schools <- paste("s", 1:6, sep="")
>> 
>> classes <- character()
>> for (school in schools) {
>>  classes <- c(classes, paste(school, paste("c", 1:5, sep=""), sep = "."))
>> }
>> 
>> pupils <- character()
>> for (class in classes) {
>>  pupils <- c(pupils, paste(class, paste("p", 1:10, sep=""), sep = "."))
>> }
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> B.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2019-05-18, at 09:57, varin sacha via R-help <r-help using r-project.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear R-Experts,
>>> 
>>> In a data simulation, I would like a balanced distribution with a nested structure for classroom and teacher (not for school). I mean 50 pupils belonging to C1, 50 other pupils belonging to C2, 50 other pupils belonging to C3 and so on. Then I want the 50 pupils belonging to C1 with T1, the 50 pupils belonging to C2 with T2, the 50 pupils belonging to C3 with T3 and so on. The school don’t have to be nested, I just want a balanced distribution, I mean 60 pupils in S1, 60 other pupils in S2 and so on.
>>> Here below the reproducible example.
>>> Many thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> ##############
>>> set.seed(123)
>>> # Génération aléatoire des colonnes
>>> pupils<-1:300
>>> classroom<-sample(c("C1","C2","C3","C4","C5","C6"),300,replace=T)  teacher<-sample(c("T1","T2","T3","T4","T5","T6"),300,replace=T)  school<-sample(c("S1","S2","S3","S4","S5"),300,replace=T)
>> 
>>> ##############
>>> 
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