[Rd] Suggestions for R-devel / R-help digest format

Matthew Dowle mdowle at mdowle.plus.com
Fri Jul 8 13:17:32 CEST 2011

Don't most people use a newsreader? For example, pointed to here :

IIUC, NNTP downloads headers only, when you open any post it downloads the 
body at that
point. So it's more efficient than email (assuming you don't open every 
single post). I guess
RSS is similar/better. Newsreaders handle threading and you can watch/ignore 
threads easily.

Actually subscribing via email?  The only reason I am subscribed is to post 
unmoderated (and to
encourage Martin with +1 on his subscriber count); I have email delivery 
turned off in the mailman
settings.  Thought everyone did that!   If I counted correctly, there are 36 
gmane mirrors for
various packages and sigs. You can watch all these (including r-devel and 
r-help) via gmane without
needing to subscribe on mailman at all.


"Saravanan" <saravanan.thirumuruganathan at gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:4E160850.1040404 at gmail.com...
> Thanks Steve and Brian !
> Probably, I will create a gmail account for mailing lists and let it take 
> care of the threading.
> Regards,
> Saravanan
> On 07/07/2011 12:02 PM, Brian G. Peterson wrote:
>> On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 11:44 -0500, Saravanan wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I am passive reader of both R-devel and R-help mailing lists. I am
>>> sending the following comments to r-devel as it seemed more suitable. I
>>> am aware that this list uses GNU mailman for the list management. I have
>>> my options set that it sends a email digest. One thing I find is that
>>> the digest consists of emails that ordered temporarlly. For eg lets say
>>> there are two threads t1 and t2 and the emails arrive as e1 of t1, e2 of
>>> t2, e3 of t3  . The digest lists them as e1,e2 and then e3. Is it
>>> possible to somehow configure it as T1 : e1,e3 and then T2 : e2 ?
>>> This is the digest format that google groups uses which is incredibly
>>> helpful as you can read all the messages in a thread. Additionally, it
>>> also helpfully includes a header that lists all the threads in digest so
>>> that you can jump to the one you are interested in. I checked the
>>> mailman options but could not find any.
>>> Does anyone else have the same issue? It is not a big issue in R-devel
>>> but R-help is a much more high traffic mailing list. I am interested in
>>> hearing how you read/filter your digest mails in either R-help or other
>>> high volume mailing lists.
>> This really has nothing to do with R, but rather mailman.
>> I use folders, filtered on the server using SIEVE and/or procmail.  No
>> digest required. I get the mails immediately, not later in the day or
>> the next day,  and can use all my various email clients easily to
>> read/respond.
>> mailman supports a MIME digest format that includes a table of contents
>> with links to each MIME part.  mailman does not support a threaded
>> digest, to the best of my knowledge.
>> Regards,
>>     - Brian

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