[Rd] how useful could be a fast and embedded database for the R community?

Barry Rowlingson b.rowlingson at lancaster.ac.uk
Thu Dec 25 09:49:32 CET 2014

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:37 PM, joanv <joan.iglesias at live.com> wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I cannot show code.

 Then can you stop using the word "release". To release means to let
something go, preferably out into the wild. I can't even find a binary
"release" on that site. Call it the first "version" if you want, but
not "release". I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering where this
"release" is downloadable in some form.

> For the moment, this project is not open
> source, it has costs a lot of effort, and first of all, I have to find a way
> to recover the investment. If I find a way to recover the investment,
> compatible with an open source way of business, the project will be open
> source, but first of all, I have to find the "way".

 You say the "Open Spartacus" project [http://www.openspartacus.org/]
from which VulcanDB came failed "Due to the lack of funding". What was
your personal relationship with that project? In what way, apart from
in name, was that "Open"? I can't find source code or binary releases.
Just a fancy single-page website with *all* the buzzwords. Does this
failure not teach you anything?

 The R project and its leading lights are very proud of the open
nature of R, and so you will be talking to strong proponents of open
source software here. You've presented a project with no source or
binary release, no documentation, no API or specification, nothing. No
more than vapourware ever gives us. And then....

> Please, you can check the benchmark of the first release. There are not a
> lot of information about the benchmark, because as I said before, some
> information is sensitive to be published, for the moment.

 ... you ask *us* to check *your* benchmark? How? We have no idea
exactly what you tested, and benchmark comparisons *depend* on that.

> Of course, I would like this project to be open source, but if has to find
> "the way", and ideas are welcome!

 Release early, release often. The only way other R users are going to
be interested is to see the source, or at the very least to see the
proposed API and be able to discuss this. I think you will find few
friends here until you do. Otherwise I suggest you jazz up your
benchmarks into a pseudo-technical paper with some 3d bar graphs and
wave it under the noses of idiot venture capitalists until one of them
throws some money at you. Good luck!


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