[R] lme and lmer df's and F-statistics again

Dieter Menne dieter.menne at menne-biomed.de
Tue Oct 7 17:08:04 CEST 2008

Julia S. <julia.schroeder <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Now, I did that in my article and I got a response from a reviewer that I
> additionally should give the degrees of freedom, and the F-statistics. From
> what I read here, that would be incorrect to do, and I sort of intuitively
> also understand why (at least I think I do). 
> Well, writing on my rebuttal, I find myself being unable to explain in a
> few, easy to understand (and, at the same time, correct) sentences stating
> that it is not a good idea to report (most likely wrong) dfs and F
> statistics. Can somebody here help me out with a correct explanation for a
> laymen? 

Feeling with you, and hoping some day this will be resolved. I am sure you 
have read Douglas Bates'


but I thought this was temporary. The only workaround I have is not to use 
lmer for gaussian models. 


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