[R] R in the NY Times

Thu Jan 8 20:34:53 CET 2009

I believe R as a package has everything people with little knowledge of
programming can handle  quite easily. Moreover even if someone has no
programming knowledge can learn R without much effort.
I also believe if people in corporate world start using R instead of
other complex software which are very expensive then in this job make we
can save many jobs and can also save people.

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Yes I think R as a package can really learn from SAS and SPSS in making
GUI more user friendly , even at the risk of dumbing down some
complexity..

also as a consultant I know that selling software requires a lot of
marketing follow ups..which is why R has lagged behind in actual
implementation and marketing  ( who will go on site at  a client and
implement)...despite being more robust and of course helping companies
save costs in these critical times.

If you market R more and even get a 10 % share of the commercial market,
imagine how many jobs you save by cutting down software costs of the
employers..

Ajay
www.decisionstats.com

On 1/8/09, Louis Bajuk-Yorgan <lbajuk at tibco.com> wrote:
>
> As the product manager for S+, I'd like to comment as well. I think 
> the burgeoning interest in R demonstrates that there's demand for 
> analytics to solve real, business-critical problems in a broad 
> spectrum of companies and roles, and that some of the incumbent 
> analytics offerings, in particular SAS and SPSS, don't sufficiently 
> meet the growing need for analytics in many major companies.
>
> S+ (now TIBCO Spotfire S+) is of course a commercial software package
> based on the S language, which was a forerunner of R as mentioned in 
> the article, and has been widely adopted. It is currently used in a 
> wide variety of areas, including Life Sciences, Financial Services, 
> and Utilities, for applications such as speeding the analysis of 
> clinical trial data, optimizing portfolios, and assessing potential 
> sites for building wind farms.
>
> I welcome, respect, and appreciate the vitality, creativity, and sheer

> productivity of the R community, and the high quality of statistical 
> methods the community creates. And, because of the close historical 
> ties between the two products, it is generally easy to port most R 
> statistics into the commercial S+ environment, and we have worked to 
> make that easier in recent releases.
>
> Once in S+, these analytic methods can be incorporated into intuitive 
> tools for business decision makers and deployed to automated 
> environments, using visual workflows, web-based applications (using 
> standard web services), Spotfire Guided Applications for dynamic 
> visual analysis, and scalable, event-driven architectures using 
> TIBCO's IT infrastructure. S+ also provides some unique offerings, 
> such as the ability to flexibly and efficiently analyze very large
data sets.
>
> In this way, I feel companies can maximize the value of their analytic

> investments to make rapid business decisions, whether those analytics 
> are developed in R or S+.
>
> Regards,
> Lou Bajuk-Yorgan
> Sr. Director, Product Management
> TIBCO Spotfire Division
> lbajuk at tibco.com
>
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> On Behalf Of Douglas Bates
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:58 PM
> To: marc_schwartz at comcast.net
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> Subject: Re: [R] R in the NY Times
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Marc Schwartz 
> <marc_schwartz at comcast.net> wrote:
>> on 01/07/2009 08:44 AM Kevin E. Thorpe wrote:
>>> Zaslavsky, Alan M. wrote:
>>>> This article is accompanied by nice pictures of Robert and Ross.
>>>>
>>>> Data Analysts Captivated by Power of R 
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/business-computing/07p
>>>> r
>>>> ogram.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> January 7, 2009 Data Analysts Captivated by R's Power By ASHLEE 
>>>> VANCE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SAS says it has noticed R's rising popularity at universities, 
>>>> despite educational discounts on its own software, but it dismisses

>>>> the technology as being of interest to a limited set of people 
>>>> working on very hard tasks.
>>>>
>>>> "I think it addresses a niche market for high-end data analysts 
>>>> that
>
>>>> want free, readily available code," said Anne H. Milley, director 
>>>> of
>
>>>> technology product marketing at SAS. She adds, "We have customers 
>>>> who build engines for aircraft. I am happy they are not using 
>>>> freeware when I get on a jet."
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for posting.  Does anyone else find the statement by SAS to 
>>> be
>
>>> humourous yet arrogant and short-sighted?
>>>
>>> Kevin
>
>> It is an ignorant comment by a marketing person who has been spoon 
>> fed
>
>> her lines...it is also a comment being made from a very defensive and

>> insecure posture.
>
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Regards,

Ajay Ohri
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